Home Current Progress  | Donor  |  Engine  |  Chassis  |   Exterior  |  Interior

Introduction  |   Picking a Kit Installation  |  Transmission  | Cradle Mods  |  Exhaust  |  Engine Bay


LS1 Engine Exhaust
We contacted our friends at Stainless Works in Ohio http://www.stainlessworks.net/ to supply all of the exhaust materials.  They have one of the largest stock of Stainless steel in the US.  Very high quality materials and fantastic customer service. I contacted Al Noe and within a couple weeks, we had a collection of U and J bends, collectors, 02 Bungs, Flanges, straight tubing, header flanges and a pair of Flex joints.  They carry a large variety of stainless parts for many engines.  They were the only ones we could find that had the LS1 header flanges!  If you did not catch before we started we invested in a Tube Bender for some simple compound bending.  It was $100 and so far well worth it.  We do not recommend bending your own exhaust however it comes in handy when you need to make a support brace.
Yep we are going all out.  This is an original Diablo Tubi Style exhaust. It is 100% Stainless steel which is why we decided to go all stainless.
Test fitting shows plenty of room. Since we wanted to fabricate the headers with the engine OUT of the car we needed the collector flange in it's proper location, so we decided to build the exhaust in reverse order from the muffler forward.
Our first step was to gut all the old chassis. before we did, we installed a temporary strut tower brace. So much more room now.  We gutted it even more since the rear bumper support had to be cut for the transaxle we wanted it re-engineered.
An important piece, the engine cover allowed us to properly place the components without interfering with the later intake manifold, air and water tubing.  We needed more detail pictures of the original engine compartment.  I visited my friend John to get some more pictures of his Lamborghini and he got himself a 360 Ferrari.  .....(Yes he has both cars Lamborghini Roadster and 360 Ferrari)  he tells me that he is not planning on buying any more cars.  This was a very nice car.  With about 50 more pictures in hand I headed back to the garage.
Now when working with Stainless Steel it is recommended that you Tig weld.  You can however tack it together with a MIG and you can use regular steel wire however if you do not remove the steel with it is TIG'ed then there will be rust spots and discoloration. We decided to rent a Tri-Mix for stainless steel welding and a small spool of 304 Stainless wire. We will tack the whole exhaust together then take it to a master TIG welder to be fully welded. The it will be polished to remove all the welds.
The Exhaust was started with the Muffler mounted, If you look you can see our new bumper mounting bars.
since we wanted to retain the emissions on the engine we wanted to install Catalytic converters. Putting the flex joint and the Cat together would put the collector too far forward and we did not want that. After a few hours of thought we decided to angle it back over using some dead space with the old design plan. This allows the collector flange to extend past the block. We now have our collector location!
Since we removed the old "trunk back" support again it left the chassis with less support. so we needed to reinstall the and beef up the cross support. Since we wanted access to the exhaust components it was decided that we make a removable brace.  Using .95 (Thick) tubing and about 10,000 lbs of pressure we flattened the ends and drilled out 1/2" holes and created a support on each shock tower. We also added an angled piece to help accept the shock while driving.  We will be chroming this removable bar.

Another view of the support. Note how we made it fit around the engine cover.

Another close up of the support We wanted to be able to make the headers with the engine out of the car since it would be much easier.  We fabricated a bracket that the collector bolted to and then bolted to the block.
This allowed use to get the perfect position of the collector with it out of the car. We added a couple pieces of Stainless bars to connect the two independent tubes with the catalytic converters.  This adds some rigidity and allows for the whole pieces to be installed and removed as one unit.
You can see in this picture, the chrome plated cross member support.  and the semi-completed rear exhaust.  The exhaust is still just tacked at this point. In our quest for authenticity we began to fabricate the muffler heat shield.  We measured this out so that once the cover is in place it will stick out as far as the original.
We purchased Kevlar foil cloth that looks exactly like the original that will be sewn with Nomax thread and then glued to the cover with Furnace Adhesive for a finished look.  At this point the top pops in and out since it is a large flat sheet. To prevent the "popping" of the sheet metal we used a bead roller on all the flat panels which added much more rigidity.  It looks nice too however it will be covered with the heat shield cloth so it will not be seen.

With the cover we test fitted the heat shield and it is in exact proportion to the original

We taped a picture of the original to the work area to ensure everything that was done mimicked the correct placement of the original. Curious to what this is?  Well we got a hold of a brand new Intake manifold complete with Throttle bodies.  In case you were wondering how big this ting is actually I took some pictures to show you.
All these parts cost about $14000 and right now I can not bring myself to cut it to fit the engine.  I am looking into casting a composite plastic version and then modifying that to fit.  If that does not work then I will get out the plasma cutter.  I am hopeful the plastic parts (That will be able to be bolted together like the original) will look identical including Aluminum powder to give it the look and feel of aluminum.  I will keep you posted.
Did you know just one of these side pieces cost about $2000 and the middle section cost over $7000
   
For those of you who want to know what the logo is supposed to look like on the intake This is the $7000 part.  Ouch...More than the cost of the engine X2!
 

Custom headers

Making your own headers we thought would be very difficult and out of the range of the typical hobbyist.  Not only did we want headers that worked, we wanted it to look good and we wanted Equal length.  (This is where each tube from the head to the collector on both side) is the same length for a balanced exhaust. We wanted to know how hard this process was and if we could recommend it to anyone else to do.  So far this is completely easy to do.  It is however a time consuming process but the result will be both beneficial and rewarding. Since we decided to use stainless we tacked the welds with a MIG running Stainless wire and a TriMix this proved very well and easy to work with.  It only costs us .17 cents a day to rent the tank se we have a long time before we need to get it back and it was very cheap.  You CAN use your regular MIG to tack the headers together however you must make sure the when you go back over it with a TIG that ALL the old steel is removed otherwise you will get a mix and if any steel that is exposed WILL rust unless you plan on painting them, in which case you really do not need stainless.  Since we wanted equal length headers we needed more bent tubing to work with than your standard header kit.

The first step is to determine how long your tubes need to be.

After some calculations we took a wire to determine what ideal length would work with each tube.  Our "magic number" was 19 3/4"

We cut one ridged wire at this length and started with the furthest cylinder. (this was the easy one with only two bends.)  For the first tube we tacked it to the flange AND the collector.  This one we tacked more because when it is done you want to be able to remove all the tubes in order to weld around them and in our case also polish.  Trying to do this while it is assembled will be difficult if not impossible.  By making a permanent connection on one pipe (the first one) you will have the exact dimension and placement of the header and all  you need to do then is place the finished tubes in to complete the header assembly.
Next we took the SAME wire and re-bent it for the next cylinder. Also an easy bend.  TIP: If you go to your local Lowes or Home Depot there is a wire that is used for installing suspended ceilings, It comes in a roll and it a little thicker than a coat hanger and it cheap, easy to cut and bend.  I started using this after I began to rob my house for wire coat hangers and upsetting the wife. The second tube now installed.  It only has two small tacks on the flange because it did not want to stay put.  It will be removed when we are done.
We continued the process for the next And then the last one
Off to the Tig welder then to the polisher then re-tack welded and then back to the Tig welder then back to the polisher...   More pics to come....
Here is the completed header. It is ready to be disassembled and welded.  We sill need to add the OS weld bung for the Oxygen sensor. Now we are ready to work on the other one.

Before we complete the exhaust we need to get the proper placement of some of the rear fiberglass pieces.  When this part is completed we will return here and finish the Exhaust tips.

 
   
   
   
   
   

 

3800 Engine

This was the first time I have ever done such a thing and I am glad I did it.  If you plan on making your own exhaust just keep these things in mind. 1. Buy several variations of mandrel bent tubing  2.  Sketch what you want to do down on paper before you start  3. Have some one else go over your welds to ensure a leak proof system.   4. Make your curves as stream lines possible.

I am using one Catalytic converter with the kit's Monza exhaust tips.  I went over my welds 3 times since this was the first time I have attempted this feat.
I made the curves as smooth as possible to limit air flow restriction.  The Catalytic converter is NOT welded on I wanted to be removable in case I ever needed to.  I will be using Stainless Steel Exhaust clamps for it.
 


Copyright © 2001,
PC Upgraders, Inc All rights reserved.
www.kitcarmagazine.com" is a trademark of
PC Upgraders, Inc